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When one of the friends I made through them leaved them, they “prophesied” bad things on her and her child (they really said quote on quote “I’m prophesing bad things on you and your child) and honestly they we’re really rude on her and her child, cause the child would be born out of mariage. LIKE ??? I WAS SO ANGRY WITH THEM. SAYING THAT TO A PREGNANT WOMAN???

They’re everywhere UK, FRANCE, Belgium,The Netherlands, Ukraines, EVERYWHERE. And they target students on campuses under the cover of “bible talks” in groups and after that they take you to do a study, with just one person.

They’re everywhere UK, FRANCE, Belgium,The Netherlands, Ukraines, EVERYWHERE. And they target students on campuses under the cover of “bible talks” in groups and after that they take you to do a study, with just one person.

You thought it was a cult because they used a Bible study series constructed primarily by their leader. It is biased in certain specific ways to lead the person being studied with to conclude that they need to be saved. That may be the case, but it should be put forward up front that they would like know your spiritual background and ask you if you would be open to hearing their interpretation of what being is Christian is. What you described is 1. Not put forward clearly as a study series to examine what a Christian is according to the Bible. 2. One of their studies in the series utilizes scriptures taken out of their context. The Kingdom is not the Church. It’s made up of many churches all over the world that hold to the Biblical standards of Christianity. If anything the kingdom is invisible and borderless. The studies need to be revamped completely. I don’t understand why you listed the ICOC in your title. You encountered the ICC! Whoever you spoke with was young and not that knowledgeable about the Bible. She has clearly been taught to focus on the certain things. You were right to see that anyone trying to tell you to change your plans against your wishes is approaching you the wrong way. Honestly they are trying to spread the gospel but they are going about it with a focus that is too narrow. Loving God and making genuine friendships whether or not you end up agreeing with their perspective on the what being a Christian is about. I’m sorry you experienced such a weird thing. The ICOC has been in a process of reforming for many years. The motive is good and honorable but the way they’re going about it is weird and the way they arrange the scriptures needs to be redone

They got me on my first day of campus while with my girlfriend and they asked “do you wanna study the Bible” and me and my girlfriend were like yeah that would be awesome eventually a couple weeeks later during a study they made me and my girlfriend confess all of our sins when we had a bible study and for one I felt super uncomfortable and my girlfriend did as we. THEN THEY TOLD ME TO BREAK UP WITH MY GIRLFRIEND AND TO SEPERATE FROM MY FAMILY LIKE WTAF

Early 1990s in NYC- single parents being called out when unable to attend a Sunday service after the city was shut down because of extremely heavy snow storm. True story. Leader apologized, and continued demanding the impossible from certain members.

this group is literally everywhere! I was approached by these people while in a bookstore at the mall and a couple of women asked me if I was interested in bible studies and talked about info about this church. it was so weird cause after I got done talking with them, they were praying and holding hands in the middle of the bookstore. fortunately, they did not contact me further after this interaction.

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I’m sorry this was your experience. It sounds confusing and Christianity should not be divisive. Let me know if you wanna talk!

The ICC is NOT the same as the ICOC. The previous leader of the ICOC was kicked out and then FORMED the ICC. God is NOT the church, my dad tells me this all the time.

People like that definitely have the devil on both their shoulders. Gad you have people in uour life to help you

What does ICC stand for?

All religions are forms of political manipulation. Difference between a cult and a so called "legitimate church" is popularity. Christianity started the same way back in Roman times. The only proper way is atheism and studying of science that can be repeated through experiments. Obviously this girl is living in some kind of medieval society where everybody is a religious fanatic. People living in former Communist countries have the advantage that governments back then banned that mafia so people were relieved from their manipulation and that includes the Vatican mafia, greatest of all times.

Glad your Mom & Uncle helped you escape. I did 3 studies with the ICC years back & I walked out after hearing their discipleship agendas.

This is exactly what happened to me. I felt a lot of anxiety and pressure. They had a problem with me working a lot (I work at a hospital, we don’t close). They accused me of idolizing my work. They pressured me to get baptized and my best friend even came from hours away for this baptism that I didn’t agree to yet . It was absolutely too much. I prayed about it and now I’m apart of a different wonderful church. God literally saved me from this place.

Acts 2:38 Bible

Good Lord. The intro studies they did with you sound INSANE. My old group wouldn't dare associate with the word "cult" at all. ICC/ICOC/Splinter tactics just keep getting worse and worse. Thank you for sharing and I am glad you are out!

Cory Doctorow's enshitification explains this so well. Essentially all the platforms are in their money making mode. That's why you see so many adds and "shops". They hooked everybody onto the platform and they're now trying to make money off of all the people on their platform.

My friend is being indoctrinated by this cult right now. How do I help him??? He’s so stubborn and headstrong, what breaks the spell? I’m so incredibly scared for him, and he’s already trying to meet for a Bible study with me and my other friend. He’s dropped everything he loves, and literally told me my belief was so wrong and I was going to hell. Please help me I don’t know how to get him out.

this is crazy. thanks for your story. I left a cult like church recently and its hard stuff

it’s not recruiting it’s scripture Jesus tells us to go into the world and make disciples .. what do you think Jesus gave us his life as a gift why wouldn’t we share the gospel… also disciple is just another name for christ follower , follower of christ , or a christian not sure why you listened to her

if you feel its a cult then its cult, 1 big pyramid scheme .

ALL OF CHRISTIANITY IS A CULT-ONE HAS OVER 45,000 DENOMINATIONAL CULTS TO CHOOSE FROM.

If jesus is the word john:1:1-2,and Christian discipleship is a choice,how can we get to know him,and say we love God.. you cannot love somebody you dont know..so to say discipleship isnt required as a Christian is very false..its the reason so many are decieved.. and God's word says for us to make disciples of the nations..it will be a end time prophecy being fulfillment.. before his return.. God's people perish for lack of knowledge..hosea:4:6 Math:28:19-20,go into the nations and make disciples of the nations,and baptise them,in the name of the father,son,and holy Spirit..

How do we get a family member out of this cult ?

NOBODY knowingly joins a cult 😉

I remember their "Light and Darkness" study. I'm not sure if they still call it this(I left in 87), but it scared the crap put of me. It took a few years after leaving to recover from my experience.

She's not exaggerating.

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Tiktok killed instagram

If God ain't got no a cult on Earth I'm with God

I will never ever go back to IG ever again! 😢 Instagram is super weak! 😭

Spiritual MLM.

christianity is a cult

When I joined Facebook I was young. I joined instagram because friends of mine had joined instagram and asked me to join so I thought why not. Then as I got older I noticed a lot of teens started joining Facebook, then about a year after joining they left Facebook and joined instagram so their parents couldn’t see who or what their friends were doing or saying. Seems most social media is young kids trying to act older or to be perceived as popular. Seems like the older generation stay on facebook and instagram because they are lonely. I have left all social media apart from UA-cam

I dated a woman in this cult she tried to pull me in ….i tried to educate her on the word but this cult is strong I eventually realized I had to move on I went to a few functions and I just couldn’t believe it …. I’m African American and so was she I’m still a little mystified how this young black woman got into this phillipono cult where they literally uplift a deadman and living Philippine men she never met smh

The police need to look into london international church….. they target vulnerable people …. They couldn’t do it with me because I’m a grown adult. They prefer to target university students who are away from their family, broke or lonely

15:35 that sounds like being a Pharisee and self-righteous on that other person's part.

I was in an AoG "ministry" and it sounds so much like this. I was pressured so hard by my small group leader who called me a "friend" (which I'm using real loosely here) to get baptized and I was spiritually manipulated and pressured to do so. They gaslight you to give up your education and future to "follow the Lord" so the pastors can leech off of you and control you. The members walk around the first few weeks of school to go out and recruit and love bomb people that are alone and vulnerable, which is mostly freshman. They will pretend to be your friend and do things like take you out to coffee and pay for it to gain your trust so that you're likelier to join the cult. It's quite disturbing how these losers are going out of their way to destroy people's careers under the guise of "joining God's kingdom" just so they don't need an honest job to pay their bills

after coming here from deleting a flop post after fifteen minutes today I can say that I needed this :(

I remember going to this church many years ago. The leader is a total nut and narcissist. My spiddy senses (discernment) was warning me, this organisation is like wolves in sheep’s clothing. Let your relationship with God be personal. All churches aren’t safe unfortunately.

I do agree that ALL religions are a cult to a certain degree. Even Christianity.

10:07 is in the Bible real it Jesus said that

Naww for real it’s a girl that meet me and she wanted me to come to her church in college but now lately she hasn’t text or called because I couldn’t come to the church…. So basically I couldn’t come to the university church she hasn’t hit me up yet side eye

I joined one that was connected to an actual church denomination. The Pastor was a false teacher. He pretended to believe the Bible but he was slowly bringing in his own ideas. When I asked questions he came unglued. The cult is called the New Apostolic Reformation.

"They want you to rely on them!" Who is they and who is them?

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